Showcase KMZ 3.5cm F2.8 Jupiter-12 in LTM

Discussion in 'Leica M and LTM Mount Lens Sample Image Showcase' started by Brian, Apr 19, 2013.

  1. Brian

    Brian Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 3, 2013
    The Jupiter-12 is a copy of the wartime Carl Zeiss Jena Biogon. Early one, before 1956 or so- have German Glass. This 1952 has a Serial number stamped into the rear module that identifies it as a 1943 Zeiss Biogon.

    When received, the focus was off on the Leica. This is common with Russian lenses, which are made to the Zeiss standard. The shim typically has to be thickened, and this one required an extra 0.1mm. My opinion- KMZ tends to be the best of the Russian manufacturers. ZOMZ- close second. This lens, with shipping- was under $100. Puts it as the best of the bottom for Leica mount wide-angle lenses.

    The J-12 has a massive rear element, and will NOT fit on a Canon P or Canon 7. It fits well on the Leica M3, M8, and M9. I would NOT use it on the CL or M5.

    At F2.8, then F4.
     

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  2. Brian

    Brian Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 3, 2013
    One on the M9, wide-open.
     

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  3. defektive

    defektive Leica Place Regular

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    Mar 30, 2013
    Brian, I have one of these that has been sitting on the shelf for twelve months waiting for me to match it to my M6. Can you point me in the direction of where to find instructions of the shimming process please?
     
  4. Brian

    Brian Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 3, 2013
    I photographed this lens as I disassembled it. I will put them together in a PDF and post. I did the same with the J-3, in great detail.

    The short of it: unscrew the back element; then unscrew the front module from the focus mount; reveals the shim. It is the same as used in the Jupiter-8. Unscrew the entire front section using a rubber cork or mouse pad on the serrated front. The front optical group comes out of this section using a spanner. The last step- only if you need to flood clean the aperture blades.
     

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  5. defektive

    defektive Leica Place Regular

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    Mar 30, 2013
    Thank you
     
  6. Penfan2010

    Penfan2010 Leica Place Regular

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    Apr 18, 2013
    First shots with the Jupiter 12 on my M8. PPd in LR4.4 and Silver Efex Pro 2.0.

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  7. Brian

    Brian Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 3, 2013
    Very nice conversions, and the J-12 looks sharp. The M8 produces some of the cleanest images that I've ever seen, when used at lower ISO settings.
     
  8. CaptZoom

    CaptZoom Leica Place Regular

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    Apr 11, 2013
    Man...I've been too chickensh*t scared to put this on my M9! But apparently it mounts without damaging the camera, huh?
     
  9. Penfan2010

    Penfan2010 Leica Place Regular

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    Apr 18, 2013
    Evening Walk with the 3.5

    A few photos I took on an evening walk around our neighborhood park with the KMZ 3.5 on my M8; PP on LR 4.4. Was going to do BW conversions, but I do like the color of this old Russian lens.

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  10. Penfan2010

    Penfan2010 Leica Place Regular

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    Apr 18, 2013
    Not sure about the M9 (do I have it right that the sensor is slightly thicker than the M8?). Clearly no issues with the M8.
     
  11. Penfan2010

    Penfan2010 Leica Place Regular

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    Apr 18, 2013
    One more at the end of the evening walk; for the last 8 years or so, I have not had any luck getting a photo of my younger son with a decent look on his face.

    The KMZ is nice and sharp and contrasty. BTW, I don't have an IR cut filter for the KMZ, so his dark blue hoodie is exhibiting the trademark M8 color shift.

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  12. Penfan2010

    Penfan2010 Leica Place Regular

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    Apr 18, 2013
    BTW just noticed Brian's version is the silver one; here's my beat up black one mounted on my M3.

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  13. CaptZoom

    CaptZoom Leica Place Regular

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    Apr 11, 2013
    Nice photos Pen.
    I don't know about the thickness of the M9 sensor versus the one in M8. This lens was amongst my favorites on the Leica clone I used to have. The minuscule size and good IQ make it really attractive.
     
  14. Brian

    Brian Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 3, 2013
    I have used it on the M9 without problems. Mine is from 1952- and the rear module is shown. Later J-12's got rid of the protective metal ring around the rear element.

    The only problem I've had is using on a Canon 7 and Canon P. I also think the Canon VI would be a problem.
     
  15. CaptZoom

    CaptZoom Leica Place Regular

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    Apr 11, 2013
    Thanks Brain for taking the risk! I get my M9 back some time next week. I'll try the Jupiter and report back. I'll do some research to figure out when my Jupiter was produced.
     
  16. Penfan2010

    Penfan2010 Leica Place Regular

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    Apr 18, 2013
    Posted another version of this on SC and elsewhere on this forum.

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