Showcase Leica 50mm f/2.5 Hektor

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  1. Mr_Flibble

    Mr_Flibble Leica Place Veteran

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    I've managed to snag a 1933 sample of the 5cm f/2.5 Hektor lens. Unfortunately the center of the front element is badly scuffed, causing all kinds of fuzziness at apertures smaller than f/6.3.

    The Hektor is a triplet consisting of 6 elements in 3 groups of 2 cemented elements each. Designed by Max Berek in 1931 and produced mainly in 1932 and 1933 for a total of some 10000 units.

    Soft-wide open, reasonably sharp stopped down, flare-prone. Yep, it sounds like a Leitz lens ;)

    Some images taken at f/4.5 in/around the fortress town of Heusden.
    Camera: Leica IIIc (1942)
    Lens: Leitz 5,0cm f/2.5 Hektor (1933)
    Film: Fomapan 100 Classic (Ro9, 1+25, 6.5 minutes)

    1. Abandon all hope...
    Hektortest12.

    2. ...ye who enter here.
    Hektortest07.

    3.
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    4. foundations of one of the old fortress gates
    Hektortest03.


    Not overly happy with the results. I'm thinking about having the front element polished.
     
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  2. Brian

    Brian Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 3, 2013
    The glass on some of those early lenses is very soft. It is an uncommon enough lens to have the front element polished, and an valuable enough lens to have a professional shop do it.
     
  3. Mr_Flibble

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    I'm not sure the front element on the Hektor is the softer flint glass like on the Summar and Summitar.
     
  4. Mr_Flibble

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    Anyway, currently inquiring about having the lens serviced. ;)
     
  5. raid

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    Keep us informed on it. I love such lenses.
     
  6. Mr_Flibble

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    Certainly looks okay at wider apertures (f/4.5 and f/3.2)

    Testing it earlier on the Epson R-D1

    Hektor50.
     
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  7. Mr_Flibble

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    My question concerning re-polishing the front lens has been forwarded to another camera repair service in the UK.
    This guy might have a spare front element, that sounds like a better option than having expensive re-polishing done that would still reduce image quality.

    Some more from the first roll for Raid ;)
    Hektortest04.
    Hektortest16.
     
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  8. Brian

    Brian Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 3, 2013
    Spare front element- That must be RARE!

    I've replaced the front element of a 1930s 5cm F2.8 Tessar with one 20 years newer, from a broken Contaflex. I needed to adjust the shim ever-so-slightly, worked out very well for me.
     
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  9. Mr_Flibble

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    Well might not be an original part in that sense.
    Eugh, only way to contact the guy is by phone or snail mail. -_-
     
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    The lens is currently with Malcolm Taylor of "Leica Lore".
    He has several Hektor lenses to check the curvature of my sample. Looks like the front element center is out by about 2 microns. But he thinks there were some other issues with the lens as well as someone has been inside it before. Might be poorly aligned elements as the focus was out by a bit too.
     
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    I had a pleasant conversation with Mr Taylor over the phone over the weekend.
    The plan is to correct the curve on the front element and re-align the elements.
    He will replace the felt light seal in the mount.
    He will also attempt to reduce the play in the focusing helical.

    The Hektor was maybe 5 minutes of the conversation, the rest was all about the qualities of different Leica lenses, bodies and the current-day viability of some of the different accessories.
    As I said, a very pleasant conversation :)
     
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  12. Mr_Flibble

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    Was starting to get slightly worried about the Hektor lens, until I received a phonecall yesterday. Mr Taylor said he has finished the lens and the results of the tests so far appear very promising.
    The focus is a little stiff towards close-up, but he says that will probably clear up when it has worn in a bit.
    He's adjusted the lens for the slight focus shift to account for the re-polished front element.

    The lens probably suffered from a fall at some point in its life as the lens tube bayonets were damaged. He has adjusted those as well.

    Looking forward to hear from him later this week with the final report. :)
     
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  13. Brian

    Brian Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 3, 2013
    I look forward to seeing the results. So many of these lenses get an undeserved reputation due to damage incurred over the years. Use a lens that has been restored, or is the 1 in 10 that is undamaged: get an idea of what it is capable of. I have a Thorium Summicron that is restored: wow.
     
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  14. Mr_Flibble

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    So far I've shot half a roll of RPX 400 with it. I'm not liking the film very much because I just can't seem to get it right in Rodinal. But here are some samples anyway, exposed as 320 ASA, developed in Ro9 for 21 minutes in 1+50 at 20C


    Hektortest202.

    Hektortest203.

    Stand by for better results, as I'm currently running a roll of Fomapan 100 through a IIIc with this lens on it.
     
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  15. Mr_Flibble

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    Fun with Fomapan 100 (Ro9, 1+25, 6.5 minutes 20C).
    Much nicer results.

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    Some more images coming taken at wider apertures.
     
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    HT151107.

    HT151105.
     
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  17. Mr_Flibble

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    Took the Hektor out for a spin last saturday at the "War from Above" event at Fort Veldhuis

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    Captive Audience
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    All clear
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    Leica IIIc, 5cm f/2.5 Hektor, Fomapan 100 (HC-110, B, 6m, 20C)
     
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  18. Brian

    Brian Super Moderator Subscribing Member

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    Great shots- especially the first.
     
  19. Mr_Flibble

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    Except for the soldier and harley growing out of peoples' heads ;)
     
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    Few Fomapan 100 shots with the Hektor taken at Grave and the "Battle for the 11th Bridge" event.

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    Little too dark
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