Nikkor 50/2 H,C LTM

Discussion in 'Leica M and LTM Lenses' started by Paxnobiscum, Nov 11, 2013.

  1. Paxnobiscum

    Paxnobiscum Leica Place Regular

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    Petur Thorsteinsson
    It's a well known fact that you can never have to many 50mm lenses. I've recently become a bit obsessed with the Nikkor 5cm/2 H.C, rigid, in LTM and would highly appreciate all information regarding that lens. I was told, on another website, that it's very prone to getting oil on the blades. Is that a known problem of this type of lenses, above other types? What else to look for before buying? According to Photosyntesis.co.nz, the internal construction didn't change from 1950-1962, they are all Sonnar-types, aren't they? Any known difference in the quality of the glass used over the period of production? Does someone have some photos from the lens to show.

    With thanks in advance

    Petur, Iceland
     
  2. Brian

    Brian Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 3, 2013
    Oil on the blades- no worse than any other lens of this generation, about average- less than the pre-war Zeiss Sonnars and much less than the Canons. The Nikkor lenses are hard coated, and the coatings/glass do NOT react badly to oil and hazing. The later generation Canon lenses- will destroy the glass.

    The Nikkor is based on the classic 6-element in 3-group Sonnar, but is a unique formulation. The coatings may have been tweeked throughout the run, but performance between the early collapsible lenses and latest black-rim is equal.


    attached- 5cm F2 Nikkor-HC, late version, wide-open on the Leica M8. I'll take this lens out on the M Monochrome today.
     

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  3. Paxnobiscum

    Paxnobiscum Leica Place Regular

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    Petur Thorsteinsson
    Thanks Brian. Please show us some shots from the MM + Nikkor H.C 5cm/2 combo. I will definitely grab a copy of this lens, sooner rather than later.
     
  4. Brian

    Brian Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 3, 2013
    I packed up the M9 and M Monochrom, and will switch off the Nikkor 5cm f2 with the C-Sonnar.
     
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  5. Brian

    Brian Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 3, 2013
    Back from the Museum- we had a great day.

    Shots here are wide-open, at F2 on the M Monochrom, Skylight filter used.
     

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  6. Brian

    Brian Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 3, 2013
    Can't leave out the T-33 Shooting Star... One was on Columbo last night, Patrick McGoohan -who did it- had a picture of one in his study, and helped Columbo break the case. Leslie Nielson was also in it, the Victim.
     

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  7. Brian

    Brian Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 3, 2013
    To sum up- focus is perfect on the M Monochrom, Bokeh is smoother than the F1.4 and F1.5 versions of the Nikkor 5cm. Minimum focus is to 18" for the rigid version. The collapsible has the same optics, but focus is to 3ft. The "look" is very similar to the pre-war Zeiss 5cm f2 Sonnar, but color rendition is different. Which I'll show on the M9 some other day.
     
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  8. Paxnobiscum

    Paxnobiscum Leica Place Regular

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    Petur Thorsteinsson
    Thanks a lot Brian. The 5cm/2 H.C is obviously a great Sonnar, beautifully demonstrated by your shots. One more excellent portrait lens with elegant bokeh. I'm flabbergasted by it's close focus range of 18" - did you modify it to reach such a short MFD? Does it lose the RF coupling at some point? I must admit that my GAS is flaming after studying your shots with the MM - and look forward to see how it performs in color on the M9.

    All the best and thanks again

    Petur
     
  9. Brian

    Brian Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 3, 2013
    The Leica mount Nikkor Rigid 5cm F1.5, F1.4, and F2 all focus to 18"- but lose RF coupling at about 1m. You can file the threads down a bit to maintain focus to 0.65m on the Leica, but I have not done it on this one. - It's just too mine, mint condition. I did this on another one that I've had, worked beautifully.
     
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  10. Paxnobiscum

    Paxnobiscum Leica Place Regular

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    Petur Thorsteinsson
    I understand - even old Nikkors don't do the impossible. But it's a nice possibility to get closer than the RF allows by scale focusing.
     
  11. Paxnobiscum

    Paxnobiscum Leica Place Regular

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    Petur Thorsteinsson
    I have been looking for the Nikkor 50/2 LTM and have got one interesting offer. It's an early NKJ copy in good shape, with a click-stop less aperture ring. Now I would like to ask when, and if ever, Nikon introduced aperture clicks to this type of lenses during their lifetime? I actually like to have click stops but don't exclude a good copy at fair price, even though it's click less. I can't find any info regarding this on the web, even not after a quite intensive search,
     
  12. Brian

    Brian Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 3, 2013
    What is the serial Number? The first few digits will do. Early versions of the rigid started with "5008", later changed the numbering system and went to "61".
     
  13. Paxnobiscum

    Paxnobiscum Leica Place Regular

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    Petur Thorsteinsson
    The lens in case has a serial number starting with 623xxx. I guess it's similar to the one I'm watching at brooklyncamera (621xxx) - but with a slight oil on the blades and less expensive.
     
  14. Brian

    Brian Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 3, 2013
    My 61xxxx Leica mount lens does not have click-stops either. The late one does- Sometime adter the 62 block, construction changed and I guess the click-stop was introduced. My regular user is a very late 74 block, with the Black aperture scale. Clock-stops on it.
     
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  15. Kookie B.

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    Beautiful image! It's a lot harder than it looks to photograph a polished airplane. In some respects its like photographing a mirror. Nicely done!

    Ed B.
     
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